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Interview of Abbé
Pierre
The Canadian television was insisting on having both of
us for a common broadcast transmission. I was sitting by the
side of Abbé Pierre; he is still in charge of many struggles
and actions. During the interview I was surprised when Abbé
Pierre presented his recent personal experience: he was in Madagascar,
in the lower parts of Tananarive, after a tornado had devastated
the country.
The Abbé saw misery unbearable for him. He had never seen
such misery before! Then he said: "I could not understand
the silence of God in front of such an unjust fate imposed on
people. I almost blasphemed. Since then, I have to say that I
cannot believe like before."
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- Tow persons lost.
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- All at once I lost two Swiss friends, two beloved priests.
One was a well-known theologian, outspoken and sometimes feared.
The other was a man of practical experience, always defending
the refugees.
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Professor Herbert Haag
had been a Professor at the famous university of Tübingen.
He had his free speech, a rare case in our days. He had the courage
to speak about matters that the Church does not like. About ten
years ago, I received from him in Lucerne a reward for my action
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- Cornelius Koch
devoted his life to the service of refugees and the excluded
persons from the society. On his hospital bed he was still fighting
for a collective legalization of illegal immigrants in Switzerland.
It was quite a thing to be with him to defend the illegal immigrants
from Almeria in Andalusia or from Freeburg in Switzerland.
These two priests are the honor of the Church.
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Living together
We were twenty-two going to Palestine. Most of the members
of the group were cameramen, journalists, and photographers.
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We lived together for six days in a Palestinian camp close
to Bethlehem. I was in a dormitory of six with superposed beds. |
The collective actions, the transportation, the meetings have
made us all the time close to each other.
Three of them were Moslems. Another one told me he was
born in a catholic family and was baptized but he left the Church
to be himself. For him the Church represents the moral order.
What counts for him is truth. He kept his distance from the Church
to be free. Regarding the other members of the group they had
no reference to any religion but they were not indifferent to
the presence of a bishop among them. It was important for me
to be humanly present and ready to help. I cannot testify for
the Gospel before the other considers me as a brother for him.
If I feel that I am superior than him, there will be no real
understanding between us.
Thanks to the Palestinians, we have been able to live together
in an astonishing way, with an unforgettable human relationship
for every one of us. |
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- Where is God?
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In front of the Town Hall of Paris a demonstration of illegal
African immigrants was moving through a series of fences. |
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- Between them and the Town Hall there was a thick row of
policemen as usual. Banners were floating in the wind. The loud
speaker was pouring slogans tirelessly repeated by all the demonstrators.
The tam-tams were animating the place. I was among these Africans,
suddenly a man came up to me and said: "What about God?"
I answered quickly: "God is here" "Are you
sure?" "Yes, God is always on the side of the oppressed
people" " he is not on the side of the policemen?""
Because God is with the oppressed people, he excludes nobody" |
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The man that I did not know still asked a last question "
You are blamed for not speaking about God in the media".
"For many people, God is not a synonym of liberation".
The man shook my hands and said," I agree with you".
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